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I honestly feel that being poly is as much a sexual orientation as being straight, bi, or gay. To me monogamy and plyamory, as well as polyfidelity, are all linked just as the straight/bi/gay paradigm. As such I have ever struggled with my sexuality in the western world where such practices are often frowned upon and in some places are actually illegal. Imagine that: a sex crime. What is this, an Orwellian society?
Recently I was able to put a name to how I have always felt, though before there was much struggle and hardship in relationships as I strained to conform to what was expected of me in a relationship. Despite having dated and been briefly married to primarily bisexual women, things just never worked out. I was living in the midwest at the time (Oklahoma to be specific) and the only "alternative" sexualities were gays and swingers, both made me rather uncomfortable in that it just wasn't right for me.
Over the years I have come to find a deeper and more mature understanding of how I feel and what kind of relationship I want to have. However, I have yet to be able to find a receptive partner due to being somewhat of a social recluse. My reclusiveness was a direct result of feeling awkward in public around so many beautiful and attractive women. But, having been raised in an environment of exclusivity and having that been re-enforced by monogamous bisexual women trying to manipulate the relationships I was in to their ends rather than open love has led me to a place of awkwardness and self contiousness.
Though I am fully aware of my feelings the actions of others have left me feeling somewhat insecure, and though I am polyamorous by nature, I find that because of my experiences I am, for the time being, stipened by only being able to handle polyfidelity, where love is free and open but the relationship is closed beyond three people. I just dont feel that I could handle any more than that. The bigotous nature of the western world has harmed myself and many others of a similar nature whom I have spoken with at length. It is no different than being persecuted for being bi or gay, yet there is very little awareness and thus much fear and contemptment for our kind.
The worst part of all of this is that while there was nothing inherently wrong with how I was feeling, I was not able to comprehend the full implications of it since I had never had any exposure to it. As a direct result I found myself contemplating cheating on my lovers over the years, thankfully I was stronger than to give in to my baser instincts and was able to stave off seriously hurting anyone through the relationally destructive act of cheating.
As I previously stated I have recently been able to put a name to what I have always been, and as such had to address this self discovery with my significant other. She herself had dabbled with the prospect of polyamory in the past, however it was while with abusive and controlling men whom were really just looking for a justification to cheat as there was no honesty or compassion being expressed or reciprocated. To further complicate matters her previous bisexual lover came back with her new boyfriend wanting to have a triad with her. The down side is that the man involved was acting on the same motives of control and abuse as all the other men she had been with in such a relationship. I have discussed things with her and, over many tears, she was able to express her fears which I have been able to put mostly at ease. Though I do not believe she is opposed to a polyamorous relationship, she is definately scarred from the past making things rather difficult for both of us.
In the end we have been able to come to the agreement that I would be limited to one other partner with no sexual contact, which is definately a step in the right direction. My main fear however is not for this relationship but rather for all of the other people out there that are experiencing the same issues and pains as a result of past manipulation and bigotry in the Untied States and parts of the EU (though the EU is much better off and much more open than the US). Having been badly emotionally scarred by the actions and predjudices of the mainstream I understand a deep need for awareness and open expressiveness that is lacking in modern American society. I have become aware of the awareness rallies yet do not feel that I could participate in them due to the nature of my situation.
The point of all of this is to thank those that openly fight for poly rights. Rest assured that those of us that cannot do the same are eternally greatfull for your time and efforts. I only pray that in time the injustices that have scarred so many will be a thing of the past.
From what I have been able to surmise certain parts of the country are very repressed, and it is those parts of the country that produce stories like mine numbering in the thousands. It is my hope that as awareness grows the number of people that put themselves through hell trying to conform to a social "norm" that just isn't for them will decrease sharply.
As for me the time of healing is just beggining, and a long hard road it will be. Thankfully after moving to Sacramento, CA I have found a few friends that understand and support me in this as well as one poly woman that has been instrumental in helping me become self aware. Now that I have been made aware of the existance of a community of like minded people I believe that emotional healing is forthcoming and I will finally be able to find my way.
Recently I was able to put a name to how I have always felt, though before there was much struggle and hardship in relationships as I strained to conform to what was expected of me in a relationship. Despite having dated and been briefly married to primarily bisexual women, things just never worked out. I was living in the midwest at the time (Oklahoma to be specific) and the only "alternative" sexualities were gays and swingers, both made me rather uncomfortable in that it just wasn't right for me.
Over the years I have come to find a deeper and more mature understanding of how I feel and what kind of relationship I want to have. However, I have yet to be able to find a receptive partner due to being somewhat of a social recluse. My reclusiveness was a direct result of feeling awkward in public around so many beautiful and attractive women. But, having been raised in an environment of exclusivity and having that been re-enforced by monogamous bisexual women trying to manipulate the relationships I was in to their ends rather than open love has led me to a place of awkwardness and self contiousness.
Though I am fully aware of my feelings the actions of others have left me feeling somewhat insecure, and though I am polyamorous by nature, I find that because of my experiences I am, for the time being, stipened by only being able to handle polyfidelity, where love is free and open but the relationship is closed beyond three people. I just dont feel that I could handle any more than that. The bigotous nature of the western world has harmed myself and many others of a similar nature whom I have spoken with at length. It is no different than being persecuted for being bi or gay, yet there is very little awareness and thus much fear and contemptment for our kind.
The worst part of all of this is that while there was nothing inherently wrong with how I was feeling, I was not able to comprehend the full implications of it since I had never had any exposure to it. As a direct result I found myself contemplating cheating on my lovers over the years, thankfully I was stronger than to give in to my baser instincts and was able to stave off seriously hurting anyone through the relationally destructive act of cheating.
As I previously stated I have recently been able to put a name to what I have always been, and as such had to address this self discovery with my significant other. She herself had dabbled with the prospect of polyamory in the past, however it was while with abusive and controlling men whom were really just looking for a justification to cheat as there was no honesty or compassion being expressed or reciprocated. To further complicate matters her previous bisexual lover came back with her new boyfriend wanting to have a triad with her. The down side is that the man involved was acting on the same motives of control and abuse as all the other men she had been with in such a relationship. I have discussed things with her and, over many tears, she was able to express her fears which I have been able to put mostly at ease. Though I do not believe she is opposed to a polyamorous relationship, she is definately scarred from the past making things rather difficult for both of us.
In the end we have been able to come to the agreement that I would be limited to one other partner with no sexual contact, which is definately a step in the right direction. My main fear however is not for this relationship but rather for all of the other people out there that are experiencing the same issues and pains as a result of past manipulation and bigotry in the Untied States and parts of the EU (though the EU is much better off and much more open than the US). Having been badly emotionally scarred by the actions and predjudices of the mainstream I understand a deep need for awareness and open expressiveness that is lacking in modern American society. I have become aware of the awareness rallies yet do not feel that I could participate in them due to the nature of my situation.
The point of all of this is to thank those that openly fight for poly rights. Rest assured that those of us that cannot do the same are eternally greatfull for your time and efforts. I only pray that in time the injustices that have scarred so many will be a thing of the past.
From what I have been able to surmise certain parts of the country are very repressed, and it is those parts of the country that produce stories like mine numbering in the thousands. It is my hope that as awareness grows the number of people that put themselves through hell trying to conform to a social "norm" that just isn't for them will decrease sharply.
As for me the time of healing is just beggining, and a long hard road it will be. Thankfully after moving to Sacramento, CA I have found a few friends that understand and support me in this as well as one poly woman that has been instrumental in helping me become self aware. Now that I have been made aware of the existance of a community of like minded people I believe that emotional healing is forthcoming and I will finally be able to find my way.
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Re: Bigotry and its effects on one poly man
Wed, September 23, 2009 - 3:46 PMI believe in the poly lifestyle as well. I think everyone assumes it may be a sexual union that violates the ancient codes of ownership by a husband or religious morality. I really think that the great value of it is that, for instance, my wife does not like to bowl, I have no partner.....and yet in a polymarriage I might have someone who liked to do just that thing.
I think you are right and that it will require a very dedicated movement to help people who wish to to find their way into it.....perhaps starting as a quasi legal entity like a corporation. No one really wants to be the first one to declare themselves a polymarriage participant because of the extreme prejudice of common unthinking folk........despite the fact that it is much more Christian and Enlightened than other forms. -
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Re: Bigotry and its effects on one poly man
Wed, September 23, 2009 - 4:18 PMI find Christianity a moot point in all of this as I and just about everyone I know are openly Pagan. Being Pagan we believe in the importance of personal autonomy, "'An it harm none, do what ye' will" is a common saying amongst the Pagan community. However I find that many Pagans, despite believing in autonomy, still feel very strongly that being poly is wrong simply because it is not the norm. Though this is certainly not true of most Pagans there is still a large contingent that do not feel as we do.
Honestly religion shouldn't even be a factor for one's sexuality and I personally believe that any faith that tries to tell you what is and is not ok for your life should be carefully scrutinized. Granted that ethics and morals must be present to keep people from getting hurt, but to condemn an entier lifestyle, even though when done maturely and ethically it hurts no one, is nothing more than closed mindedness and bigotry. I really do hope that more people take the time to carefully examine their beliefs and decide for themselves what is right and what is wrong rather than have other's ethics and morals spoon fed to them because they don't have the strength of character to face down their fears and closely examine their own lifestyle with brutal honesty. Only by facing your own faults, fears, and anxieties can you grow into the person you want to be deep down inside. -
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Re: Bigotry and its effects on one poly man
Thu, September 24, 2009 - 11:32 AMI just tossed that in myself.....I am not religious and find many things from standard Christianity strange......I only had that thought because a lot of Chhristians would oppose the poly life on religious grounds without considering that Christ had a group of men and women he spent his life traveling with that was tightly bound and pledged to each other......well, you get the idea.
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Re: Bigotry and its effects on one poly man
Fri, September 25, 2009 - 6:39 PM"I only had that thought because a lot of Chhristians would oppose the poly life on religious grounds without considering that Christ had a group of men and women he spent his life traveling with that was tightly bound and pledged to each other......well, you get the idea."
Well, yeah, but you're asking for consistency from a group of people for whom the only consistent act is insisting that anyone not doing it THEIR way must change. Anything can be justified by this or that quote from this or that version of various holy books -- it's not rocket science, pretty much any buck-tooth can do it.
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Re: Bigotry and its effects on one poly man
Sat, September 26, 2009 - 2:27 PMMy ex-husband was all about keeping things under wraps. However, once I could talk casually about my romantic life, people from little old ladies to family have been fairly accepting (my mom had bigger issues with my bisexuality than with the preference for open relationships). The issues, for me, have more to do with societal molds for relationships--many people *get* how default relationships work, but are confused by the design-to-fit nature of poly ones. Mainly, that makes negotiating relationships tough, which means I have more complicated things to do than worry about how the rest of the world views me.
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Re: Bigotry and its effects on one poly man
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 12:24 AMThank you for a really interesting and useful post.
I struggle with similar issues. A year ago I drank ayahuasca (the Amazonian shamanic plant medicine) and one of the benefits I derived was an experience of standing outside culture and seeing how ridiculous and manipulative many of our constraints and taboos really are. However, I wouldn’t recommend anyone to drink ayahuasca unless they felt it was actually calling them. Also, everyone has different experiences.
You talk about certain areas of the USA being repressed. Perhaps it is just something we do to ourselves. I suppose I am struggling with the idea that it is OK for me to feel pleasure. Polyamory makes a lot of sense for me, but it is a real problem to meet likeminded people, even in a liberal place like London. I am just assumed to be horny or kinky. Enjoying sex with guys means I am put in the gay box. People don’t seem to grasp that it is possible to have multiple affections. Maybe you are right that polyamory is a different type of sexuality. -
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Re: Bigotry and its effects on one poly man
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 1:12 AM"Maybe you are right that polyamory is a different type of sexuality."
From a functional standpoint, it seems as if there's human sexuality, and then various subsets, usually defined by their restrictions.
So, human sexuality is normal, and what people call "monogamy" is just a restrictive sexuality.
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Re: Bigotry and its effects on one poly man
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 6:03 PMThank you all for your responses.
I think that it all boils down to the fact that people will always fear what they do not understand and most will seek to undermine and/or destroy what they fear. The only way to end persecution then is to make others aware and informed. Truth defeats hate 9 times out of 10, lets just hope none of us ever experience that one time.
Az