Mono+Poly: IS THERE HOPE?

topic posted Thu, October 1, 2009 - 1:06 AM by  Janelle
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I've been polyamorously oriented for as long as I can remember, and have identified myself as polyamorous for about 5 years. Navigating my relationships in this way I have seen much growth and healing within myself and among the beautiful polyamorous community I have found. I have embraced myself as poly, and could not imagine ever denying this part of myself. My life is so rich because of the love and intimacy I have shared with all my lovers.

Recently I've fallen in love with a monogamously-oriented man, who has never been exposed to polyamory; heard of yes, but has never known anyone who practised it and has never been attracted to it. Being from different cities we have kept a casual and distant admiration of each other for a couple of years. The communication is amazing and we have been open and clear about things from the start. Now that we are considering a more than casual relationship though, the issue of this difference between us has been on the forefront.

He is open to learning about polyamory and what it involves, and is an excellent communicator, therefore I know there is much hope. I'm also open to understanding his orientation and what it means to him. He's got me mono-curious, and I'd say he's somewhat poly-curious. He's starting to examine what's behind his jealousies and that is an amazing start for someone who seemed very firm about his monogamy. I think it's because he knows that I am such a free spirit and that I could never fit in the monogamy box. We both know that we cannot change each other's ways (nor would we wish to), for we love each other. So we've agreed to a trial period to see if we can meet in the middle somehow... drop the titles of "mono" and "poly" and just communicate about how we feel in the flow.

Do you think that there is a middle to be found?
Can one person be mono and the other poly and it still work?
Anything you'd advise me to keep in mind going into this?
Is there hope or do you think this is a painfully futile endeaver?
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  • Re: Mono+Poly: IS THERE HOPE?

    Thu, October 1, 2009 - 8:25 AM
    I know a few mono/poly pairings. Within the most successful one, the mono partner is actually pretty poly in attitude, has taken the time to educate himself about poly, goes to discussion groups etc with his partner as her main partner, but just chooses not to expend the considerable energy involved in being poly in practice. He'd rather enjoy personal pursuits with the time that his partner's poly connections free up on the home front than have additional relationships himself.

    If there is _any_ expectation that one person is going to change to suit the other, disaster will ensue eventually, in my experience. The sentiments of: "If you loved me, you'd be able to accept my love without putting a box around me." or "If you loved me enough, you'd be happy with just me." will be rolling around in the background, eating away at the foundation of the connection.

    It can be done, but the underlying reasons to do it need to be compatible.
  • Re: Mono+Poly: IS THERE HOPE?

    Thu, October 1, 2009 - 7:12 PM
    "Do you think that there is a middle to be found?"

    That depends on how much you value your way of being. "Compromising" is mostly an act wherein everybody agrees to be mutually unhappy for the sake of everyone's happiness.

    I'd suggest you take a different view of it.

    Instead of saying "is there a place in the middle?" ask "Am I okay if he decides to not date anyone else, and is he okay if I date someone else". That's a question that's far more interesting.

    People can be whatever they want to be -- if a partner tells me "Hey, I'm monogamous, dude," then i say "well, that's up to you -- at least you're not trying to make ME that way!"

    "Can one person be mono and the other poly and it still work?"

    Sure, as long as they are't each trying to convert the other. That can be hard, of course, and is usually where it all breaks down.

    "Anything you'd advise me to keep in mind going into this?"

    Boundaries are very good things. Be clear with each other on where your boundaries lie and focus on keeping those boundaries.

    "Is there hope or do you think this is a painfully futile endeaver?"

    Oh, there's always hope, of course. But historically, you have a hill to climb.
  • Re: Mono+Poly: IS THERE HOPE?

    Fri, October 2, 2009 - 10:53 AM
    Also, sometimes what people want shifts when they're in a new relationship/new type of relationship, and things become clear in terms of what direction to take in order to make things work out smoothly. Or the fact that it won't work out becomes clear. Actually attempting a relationship is probably the only way to answer your questions, I'd think. It's so dependent on every individual situation.

    When I got involved with my girlfriend, she strongly identified as poly and I felt very monogamous. We basically were doing a poly/mono thing for a while, but I wasn't really doing it for the right reasons, because I always felt pretty upset and resentful (there was a lot of general adjustment to do, on my part). A lot has happened since, and, more recently, she's been feeling monogamous and I've been feeling pretty happy doing a non-monogamous thing (though I don't identify as poly, and don't think I ever could for a number of reasons). So we sort of over-converted each other, in that I now like the option of being with other people and she's not so hot on it, at the moment. But as long as we're always able to discuss how we're feeling and renegotiate the set-up of our relationship and how many/what types of limitations we have for 'outside activity,' I'm hoping that - though we've rarely been exactly on the same page so far - we'll be able to come to a meeting place comfortably enough. And where we are right now IS comfortable enough. Being open to the need for change and renegotiation is important, because I'm not sure that she'll never want to be with other people again, just as I'm not sure I'll need that option forever. But it's good that we can always consider it and figure out what we both need and want at any given moment.

    One side note, though, is that it was VERY painful getting to the place where we are, now. I was really, really down for a long time before I learned to be okay with my girlfriend being with other people and I only felt more secure when we gradually moved towards being non-monogamous and she felt like she didn't identify as poly. So that was a huge change, and I know most poly people wouldn't have the same thing happen. Honestly, I'm not sure I could have handled a poly situation forever, but I like having a somewhat open relationship. And she had to endure a lot of stress during the whole process, so it was hard on both of us. I don't think we ever really pressured each other to change (though the conflict between our needs, at the time, was achingly apparent). Just, over time, we wound up focusing in on each other and things sort of organically shifted.

    Anyhow, it worked out for us, ultimately (having started out as mono/poly), and we're in a really good place, now. It just took a lot of communication and time in order for things to shift to a point where we were both happy with how our relationship was structured. I think there IS hope, even if it doesn't feel like it for a while, as long as both people are really committed to each other, have the ability to communicate their needs, and have the patience to wait out some unpleasant times.
    • Re: Mono+Poly: IS THERE HOPE?

      Fri, October 2, 2009 - 2:11 PM
      Thank you, I appreciate your sharing of experiences.

      I know that we are both going to change and grow a lot with this relationship and we are ready for that journey, as uphill as may be at times. We are definitely not going to try and convert each other. I'm looking forward to seeing how I will shift, and I'm aware of the possibilty that what I want may shift as well. Our intention for this trial period is to answer such questions for whether we can be happy together as we are and as we change. There's a lot of love and I hope that that will fuel us over those hills.

      Roth, how have you and your partner kept things flowing when you are not on the same page? Did you live together and separately at differnet times?
      • Re: Mono+Poly: IS THERE HOPE?

        Fri, October 2, 2009 - 3:06 PM
        Best of luck with the trial period! I really hope you two find a way to work things that feels good to both of you. It's good you're trying it out and are open to seeing what happens, even though a lot is still uncertain!

        My girlfriend and I have always lived separately, but we spend a lot of time together. Actually, we've only been seeing each other for a little over a year and a half, but there's been a lot of intensive focus on our relationship during that time. Recently, since we came to a place of more understanding and have been dealing with openness much more effectively, I think a couple of useful strategies have been learning what bothers each other and exactly why (because sometimes it's so mystifying why a seemingly 'little' thing is so hard for one person) and pulling back a bit from messing around with other people when it's particularly tense for one of us.

        In regards to the tougher times... Previously, when she was still with her boyfriend and things were really hard, I wanted to make myself be okay with the idea of her loving other people, but the harder I tried, the more impossible and painful it seemed. The only strategy I found at that point that worked well - one I thought was a terrible idea for the longest time - was to ask her to not tell me about him. I really appreciate that she did that for me, even though I think it made her uncomfortable (she felt like she was lying), because it helped me to be able, for the first time, to really see our relationship as one between the two of us and to understand that she loved me and I was important to her and feel to secure in that. So, while communication has always been essential, for a while it was an acknowledged LACK of communication about certain things that made it feasible. Sometimes too much constant dealing with absolute truth can drag you down to much to have any hope left, I think.

        But I think just spending time together and enjoying each other has been the most important thing, overall, because it reminds us of what's good for those occasional times when things are rough.

        Wish I had more helpful specific bits of advice! Again, best of luck! Sounds like there's so much going for ya if you're both going into it open-minded and with a lot of love and willingness to put in effort.
        • Re: Mono+Poly: IS THERE HOPE?

          Sat, October 3, 2009 - 1:33 PM
          "while communication has always been essential, for a while it was an acknowledged LACK of communication about certain things that made it feasible. Sometimes too much constant dealing with absolute truth can drag you down to much to have any hope left, I think."

          Thank you Roth, that's very helpful.

          There is such a thing as over-communication. Sometimes intellectually dissecting something over and over in different ways blocks the flow of emotions which can lead to impeding the process of growth and transformation. Our minds seem to be constantly needing to know, when the heart's deepest truths cannot be expressed in a way that the mind can grasp.
  • Re: Mono+Poly: IS THERE HOPE?

    Sat, October 3, 2009 - 1:20 AM
    My current GF is mono, but she understands that I am poly and seems to be accepting it. I havent put her to the test on it yet as I have been very busy with my work (I am the lead art director for an MMO in development) and so have not had time to go out and connect with the community as of late. However I am confident in her trust for me and feel that things will go well with but a few snags upon the road. We have only been together just over one month and I am positive that things will work out. If you have been talking with this guy for two years there is a very good chance that things will work, even if only for the short term (I never count on anything or any one for the absolute long term as people come and go from my life so often, but that is the life of an air aligned aquarious for you). Have trust in him, show him you care about him and support him and I am sure he will do the same for you.
    • Re: Mono+Poly: IS THERE HOPE?

      Sat, October 3, 2009 - 1:44 PM
      Thanks Az,
      I hope that you and your partner create an amazingly rich experience together.

      I'm a Gemini, so I understand the flittery air nature way of loving :)
      And for the record, he's a Taurus...with quite a bit of Gemini in his chart.
      We both love challenges!
      • Re: Mono+Poly: IS THERE HOPE?

        Mon, October 5, 2009 - 9:25 PM
        I'm poly and right now my two long-term relationships (several years each) are with women who identify as mono. All three of us live in different cities, which both lowers and heightens the anxiety depending on circumstances (they usually know when I'm with the other one, and that's the toughest time to get through). It can work, but I find it takes lots and lots of emotional work and understanding, more than I've put into my relationships with poly women I would say. There are occasional meltdowns. So far we have survived them all. Since almost all my previous relationships were with poly women, I'm finding quite a difference in how to navigate. The processing time is MASSIVE. I wish you good luck. . .keep your heart open, and accept the challenge!

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