I recently ended a rather long and intense relationship with my secondary on the grounds that it had become unhealthy for me. I was also counseled by an expert on poly relationships that our relationship was not really a polly relationship to begin with. My primary is relieved that this woman is out of my life and I am feeling better about it as well.
Now it seems that my primary, who was never that keen on poly relationships, has become very opposed to my having another secondary. She still believes in our open relationship and is not opposed to me dating bit she is very gun shy about the prospect of me finding another woman like the previous one. I am now in the near impossible position if trying to demonstrate to my primary that they are not all like the last one. It does not help that she won't meet or talk to the new prospective secondary.
Any advice?
Now it seems that my primary, who was never that keen on poly relationships, has become very opposed to my having another secondary. She still believes in our open relationship and is not opposed to me dating bit she is very gun shy about the prospect of me finding another woman like the previous one. I am now in the near impossible position if trying to demonstrate to my primary that they are not all like the last one. It does not help that she won't meet or talk to the new prospective secondary.
Any advice?
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Re: Bad apple spoiling the bunch
Wed, May 14, 2008 - 4:52 AMTime and facts.
Don't push it. If she's okay with you dating, date and enjoy. Don't push anything else.
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if-thens and a tangent
Wed, May 14, 2008 - 10:19 AMIf you're right, and your wife's feelings are based solely on fear that every woman is your ex, then I think you can probably work around that with time. I'm pretty sure your ex was a far cry from "typical", so it shouldn't be difficult to provide counter-examples--have your wife meet random poly women you aren't interested in romantically.
If your wife doesn't want you to have a committed relationship with another woman, was never happy about it in the first place, and ended up having one bad experience that lasted as long as yours did, it's unlikely she'll be thrilled about you having a committed relationship with another woman in the future.If the problem is more the relationship style, and the idea of you finding intensity in a long-term relationship again, then she'll probably remain reticent about meeting a new love of your life. Possible, but unlikely. You can wear her down, you can figure out a compromise, but she likely won't be be happy about you finding love again. On the other hand, she has no right to control whether you do or not, regardless of her status as your wife. She can let you know her feelings, she has a right to her feelings, but if her feelings conflict strongly with your desires, you get to make the decision about how to honor each. In that case, be honest with her and with yourself that you are making a decision. Don't pretend that everyone is going to end up getting what they want--that way lies madness.
tangent: I would really take that whole "not really a poly relationship" thing with a grain of salt. You were in two committed romantic relationships with two people for several years. Whether your relationships are successful or not is a different matter than whether they are poly or not. I'm bothered by "experts" who decide other people's relationships don't meet the criteria, just because the participants weren't on good behavior. It's white-washing. -
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Re: if-thens and a tangent
Wed, May 14, 2008 - 10:44 AMI agree with what everyone has said, and have a question:
Do you already have another potential secondary awaiting a seal of approval? Your last sentence seems to indicate that there is someone, in which case I can totally understand your wife's reluctance to go down that path so quickly without some time to recover. If she's fine with you dating, then just be sure to include her in your process if you start having feelings for someone. -
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Re: if-thens and a tangent
Wed, May 14, 2008 - 2:31 PMI love all the responses. Yes, I can see how my statement about the relationship "not being poly" sounds wrong. I had a poly relationship with these two women for almost five years and I need to honor that. It was very good while it lasted. The not poly part was at the very end and I suppose you might say that about the end of most poly relationships.
I have some ideas about where to go now and how to continue to be poly while growing and learning from my previous experiences. My wife is an exceptional woman and she is willing to work on this with me.
It doesn't get much better than this.
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